Talk:The Inheritance Cycle

Should We add a list of Plot Elements Paloini has stolen, as well as which Fandom they're stolen from?
 * A good idea, I think. Sara

I've finally added the stolen Plot Elements section! -WikiMaster.

PS: Can anyone find some more stolen Plot Elements? Not the ones that are still obvious but can still avoid a Lawsuit, but those that still have a 1% chance of getting Paloini in court. sorry for being a bit incoherent!
 * Why the distinction? We're the PPC, not a legal system. hS 18:04, 9 June 2008 (CDT)

Because It'll give us the illusion of having the Real World's justice systems on our side.

Also, I still think that Paloini's still breaking several copyright laws by publishing his crap.

Sorry!
 * We don't need the illusion of it, nor do we actually have it. Fanfic is fanfic, and whoever holds the copyright could pretty much tell all of us to stop with the fanfic or they'd sue, and since the PPC is pretty much fanfic derived, yeah. We're the ones who're technically breaking copyright laws every time we do a mission. Besides, writing these days takes ideas a bit from everywhere. Paolini's stuff is garbage because it is bad writing, not simply because he borrowed ideas from George Lucas, Anne McCaffrey, Tolkien and so forth. JulyFlame 13:15, 10 June 2008 (CDT)

Oops! I forgot about that.


 * That said, we're not making bucketloads of moolah off of our fanfiction, are we, July? pigeonarmy 12:30, 12 June 2008 (NZT)
 * Doesn't matter. A Cease and Desist is a Cease and Desist. JulyFlame 20:55, 11 June 2008 (CDT)
 * July's right; we're concerned with writing quality, not legality. In this vein we'd probably rather read a well-written Inheritance Cycle fanfic (cos it won't be that hard to outclass the source material) than one of the actual books. - Trojie
 * Those can exist?
 * That was a rhetorical question.

Wow...
I just want to say that you people are funny. There are several other stories that "rip" off of Star Wars. Star Wars is based off the "Hero's Journey" archetype, from Joseph Campbell's "Hero with a Thousand Faces". There's not really much that you can do different between the stories and still keep to that principal. Sure, the uncle thing could have been changed, but you aren't going to base a story on an archetype, then deviate from it because it's too close to another story's plot. Give me a break. If you really want, you can say that Lucas stole his story from many tribal legends and stories, around long before Star Wars was. There's hardly a work out there today that doesn't grab something from somewhere else and either reuse it or put their own spin on it.

If you don't like the books, fine, you don't like them. But saying that they're a direct copy and stuff is just stupid and uninformed.  Fallen62 -  Talk  |  Contributions  18:00, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

List of "borrowed" names
One of the aspects that doesn't help Eragon's case when it comes to ripping off stuff is names. Paolini makes use of several names that are too close to other works to be mere coincidence. Many are just names taken from Lord of the Rings and have had letters switched about or added. Here are some:

Imiladris>Imladris

Vanilor>Valinor

Ardwen>Arwen

Ceranthor>Caranthir

Bierland>Beleriand

Narda>Varda

Isenstar>Isengaurd

Melian>Melian

Mithrim>Mithrim

Isidar>Isildur

Turin>Tûrin

Truly Paolini is a fresh up and coming young author with new and original ideas.--Zervziel 17:34, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I really don't see what is wrong with Dragon,  I really don't. I agree with most of the things PPC says,  but not about Dragon. Well,  I am a fan so I might be bias about it alittle.97.73.64.153 01:08, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

I meant Eragon,  not dragon. Stupid spell check.97.73.64.153 01:10, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

It's not that bad
The Inheritance Cycle's not as bad as it is presented here. RumbridgeXVolzemort (talk)


 * Apologies if this isn't the best written response (I tend to be either blunt or weak when it comes to these things), but I believe this is the case of YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). If you like Eragon, great! You can spork badfic in this canon and know the nuances of the characters better and not get overly aggravated with the main character. However, there is a lot of evidence against this series, such as specific points were copied over and the evidence toward Eragon being a Gary Stu (and the whole thing about controlling his dragon, which is a sentient creature, makes a fair amount of us uncomfortable) that points towards it being poorly-written. But, hey, if you like it and think it's not terrible, that's okay! Some people like Twilight. Some people like the House of Night series, which kinda baffles me but they can do them. All in all, it's an opinion, esstentially. If you think it isn't as bad as we, as an organization, think it is, that's okay! TL;DR: Thinking The Inheritance Cycle isn't as bad as how this page presents it is okay, and an opnion, like this page. (Also, any oldbies hanging around, feel free to elaborate or correct me on any part of this.) Kittyauthor (talk) 02:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I do feel that this page gets overly hyperbolic in some spots. I also agree with the internet stranger a couple posts up that having derivative elements doesn't invalidate a story from being good.  But, I still think that the sheer amount of derivation on which Inheritance is built justifies that section on the page.  If no one else gets to it in the near future, I might go through the page and tone down the more judgmental portions, and reinforce the idea that's okay to like the series.  (Heck, I'm a fan of Roran, myself!)  I think we can excise that bit about "difficulty finding agents willing" as well; we're up to five separate spin-offs embarking on missions here, seven if you count Ginger and Meneltari in the Thursday Next interlude.


 * Doctorlit (talk) 16:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm known on the Board as Linstar, newest of newbies.

And I just thought that the article could be toned down a little. Personally, I like that Paolini bothered with a fairly logical (if maybe not totally unique) magic system,based on a conlang. (I LOOOVE conlangs. So much.)

And if and when I get Permission, I'd probably do a couple missions in this continuum. RumbridgeXVolzemort (talk)


 * My two cents: The books are not good. Kippur's sporkings (which I highly recommend reading!) make a pretty airtight case that Eragon is a horrible person. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the parts of the books that actually are creative and interesting, but you kinda have to say it with an asterisk. Not as urgently as with, say, Twilight, but still.


 * As for this page, yeah, it's one of many relics of the rant-review era of the Internet in which the PPC grew up. It should be updated. I'm not gonna do it, though. >.>


 * ~Neshomeh (talk) 14:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I disagree with you mostly, but I definitely agree that Eragon's not the most interesting character. Though it's been a while since I've read the books.

Maybe I'll update the article to make a little less acerbic. (Yay, vocabulary!) RumbridgeXVolzemort (talk) 20:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)