Talk:Claimed Badfic

Keeping the list manageable
I have removed some claims made before January 2009 from this list. Fics still available (i.e. not deleted or missioned) will be returned to the Unclaimed list. Indemaat 10:24, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Removed claims made before July 2009. Indemaat 11:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that someone took a claimed fic of this list. There, however, was no mission reported on the Killed Badfic list, nor was the fic returned to the Unclaimed Badfic list. It would make sense if either happened as it would keep the lists here somewhat coherent. Unless it was taken off the list because it turned out not to contain a Sue after all. Indemaat 05:40, 19 March 2008 (CDT)


 * This sounds a little bit familiar to me, like I could have been the one to do that. What was the name of fic?Miah 79 16:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I made that comment over two years ago (points at time stamp). Thus I doubt you were responsible. But try to remember to give reason for why fics are removed off this list. Indemaat 15:48, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, I looked at the first time stamp, and didn't pay attention to it being two different things. Nope. I've been here less than a year, so it wasn't me.Miah 79 05:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

To claim a mision
My name is AHotSpring,

I would like to know how and what I need to do to become an agent. I'm a little bit of a newbie. To the point, do I need permission to claim a Badfic?

Thank you.

Hi. The answer is yes and no: if you intend to write PPC missions, you need to introduce yourself on the PPC Board (there's a link around here somewhere), hang around and post a while so we can get to know you (and you us), and then ask for permission. However, you can claim the badfic right now if you like. Just remember to take it/them off the Unclaimed Badfic page, if they're on there.

Neshomeh 02:05, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Considering badfic
Okay, now I see it. Good thing to consider: Not everything on the Unclaimed Badfic is automatically badfic. People use several methods, there: Look on FF.net and trawl based on summaries, go by word of mouth, or go by grudge. Or to them, it is indeed badfic. The main consideration, though, is if whoever claims it thinks it's badfic, and if they can come up with a good mission from it. Personally, while I'd say I can see why Saving Connor got put on the page I'm also wondering who put it on the page because I wouldn't, personally. To me, it's a badfic if the aggregate sum of the parts are worse than any individual thing that'd make something undeniably bad.

While Saving Connor has quite a bit of things that in usual HP Fic automatically point to badfic (OOC!Lily and Manipulative Bastard!Dumbledore amongst other things) Lightning on the Wave also is building an AU world which I thought was compelling and well put together, particularly since from what I recall from when I last read it she was doing her best to keep anything new in the canon that popped up in tune with the AU unless she outright contradicted it earlier.

TL;DR: With Badfic, Your Mileage May Vary, I liked Saving Connor and don't personally consider it a badfic. JulyFlame 15:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Workload
I just compared the Claimed badfic list dated 1 January 2009 to today's list. About 67 claims are on both lists. Are we collectively taking up too much of a workload? Should we ask after the well being of people who have not finished a mission nearly 18 months after claiming it? Indemaat 09:35, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Do we know these people?
Spotted a couple of unfamiliar names while I was editing:

1. Dorcas, who has a claim for the fic "Gabriella" in the Harry Potter section;

2. Shadon/Pepper, who has a claim for the fic "The Last of them" in the Stargate SG-1/Atlantis section.

Anybody know them?

~Neshomeh 21:51, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Shadon/Pepper are agents created by Pepperedfox. If their LJ is anything to go by, they asked for permission about a year ago and then never wrote anything. Dorcas doesn't ring a bell. Indemaat 20:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Not-so-badfic
Um, I found this article that calls Methods of Rationality "one of the best fanfics ever written". Maybe we shouldn't infuriate everyone who likes it? Just seems like something to leave alone, like Sonichu or Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles. RumbridgeXVolzemort (talk)
 * Hello again! I was going to respond to this earlier, but had to do stuff. So, anyways, this is sort of a YMMV thing again. What some may consider badfic othees do not. There's actually an example on this very talk page if you scroll up a bit! Some consider Thirty Hs to be an excellent Parody Fic, while others consider it badfic. Some consider ITS MY LIFE to be a great example of a good Trollfic; I think it's horrible. It depends entirely on what you believe and what you think.
 * (Same person as above, but I'm putting a new paragraph becase topic change). I want to bring up, however, the case with the two fics you named and why *they* aren't listed. They aren't listed here not because of quality or because mass amounts of people like them, it's for different reasons. Sonichu has its own reasons listed on its own page, so I won't go into that. Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles (which I will refer to as HSPM) is not listed nor sporked because it is overly religious and we banned those sorts of missions when we banned doing badfic of the Bible (I can't, for the life of me, find exactly where and when we said no more sporking Bible badfic, but our page for The Bible notes that it is no longer allowed amd it's mentioned in several missions that overly regligious badfics cannot be missioned/sporked). That's why those two aren't listed or sporked. It's not because people liked them, it's because they violate some othee aspect of PPC policy.
 * So, TL;DR: What is considered badfic really depends on the person (although there are identifiers to bad quality, such as poor SPaG and really OOC characters), and the badfics you mentioned are not listed or sporked because they violate some other aspect of PPC policy, not because people liked them. Again, oldbies, feel free to correct me and list the source of when/where Bible badfics were banned, but I think I covered everything. I'm not angry, and I thank you for taking the time to read this. Kittyauthor (talk) 02:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I wasn't bringing those up because I thought the same reasons applied, I just knew that they're considered Bad and we don't touch them. Sorry if I equated poorly. And you're definitely right about (a lot of) badfics being YMMV. Though some are universally horrible.

Probably should just leave it up to whomever Claimed it. RumbridgeXVolzemort (talk)